Donald Trump Used to Call Me…

Fernand chats with Norm Ornstein at the Miami Book Fair about his latest book, One Nation After Trump: A Guide for the Perplexed, the Disillusioned, the Desperate, and the Not-Yet Deported. Next up, former Health & Human Services Secretary and former University of Miami President Dr. Donna Shalala drops in to discuss the future of healthcare in America. Finally, our favorite dynamic duo, POLITICO Florida’s Marc Caputo and POLITICO Magazine’s Mike Grunwald stop in to talk and close out the show with a round of rapid fire.

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